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Akira

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'Chrislam'
« on: August 01, 2011, 11:18:21 PM »
Here's an article about a movement that might just warm your heart, since you appear to be so concerned about "Islamophobia", and about the plight of the poor, poor Muslims:

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'Chrislam' - A Spirit of Antichrist

By David Dollins

I want to address what is beginning to occur in the Church and why it must be rejected outright. It's becoming increasingly 'in vogue' to accept Islam in the Church. Consider a June 24, 2011 article from World Net Daily. 'Dozens of churches, from Park Hill Congregational in Denver to Hillview United Methodist in Boise, Idaho, and First United Lutheran in San Francisco to St. Elizabeth's Episcopal Church in Honolulu, are planning to send "a message both here at home and to the Arab and Muslim world about our respect for Islam" with a time to read the Quran during worship this Sunday.' It has been labeled 'Chrislam', the attempt by some Christians to find common ground with Islam. One person said it was wrong. Another called it dangerous. God uses stronger words than that. Scripture itself declares 'Chrislam', the mixing of Christianity and Islam, to be a Spirit of Antichrist!

The Spirit of Antichrist was already prevalent during the time of the Apostle John. In fact, he was the one who had the most to say about this demonic influence. In 1 John 2:18, he said, "you have heard that Antichrist shall come, even now are there many Antichrists; whereby we know it is the last time" . Again, in 1 John 4:3, he said, "this is that SPIRIT OF ANTICHRIST, whereof you have heard that it should come; and EVEN NOW ALREADY IS IT IN THE WORLD" . The word 'Antichrist' simply means 'against Christ' or 'opposes Christ'. Anything that would be introduced into the Church that would subvert the finished work of the Cross, that is, distract, corrupt, or take away from who Jesus Christ is and what He accomplished at the Cross, is a Spirit of Antichrist. I am reminded of the words of the Apostle Paul, "Now the Spirit speaks expressly that in the latter times some shall depart from the Faith, giving heed to seducing spirits and doctrines of devils"  (1 Timothy 4:1). The acceptance of Islamic practices into the Church by these and other ministers is giving way to seducing spirits and is teaching the doctrines of devils.

What I am about to show you are the characteristics that the Apostle John himself used to describe the Spirit of Antichrist:

1) The Spirit of Antichrist denies that Jesus is the Christ. In 1 John 2:22, it says, "Who is the liar but he who denies that Jesus is the Christ? He is Antichrist"  The word 'Christ' in the original Greek means 'Anointed One'. In other words, it is a declaration of Jesus as Messiah. Islam rejects that Jesus is the one and only true Messiah. They believe He was a prophet and maybe a type of Messiah, but not the Anointed One. If that's not enough, John goes further by calling them liars.

2) The Spirit of Antichrist denies that Jesus is the Son of God. In 1 John 2:22, the Apostle continues, "He is Antichrist, who denies the Father and the Son" . Islam rejects that Jesus affirmed He was the Son of God. Furthermore, one well-known Bible teacher said that Muslims believe that the Mahdi is the future leader and that Jesus will return and follow the Mahdi to Jerusalem where He (Jesus) will deny He is the Son of God. Again, in this same verse, John said those who reject His Sonship were liars.

3) The Spirit of Antichrist does not confess that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh. In 1 John 4:3, again the Apostle states, "And every spirit that confesses not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that Spirit of Antichrist"  Did you catch that? Any spirit that rejects God as coming in the flesh is "not of God". If it didn't come from God, then it is a doctrine of devils according to the Apostle Paul himself, as stated earlier. Islam rejects that God came into this world in the flesh. This also tells us that the Christian God, who is Jesus Christ, is not the same as the Muslim god, Allah. It also proves that Allah is a false god.

Finally, the following are some of the last words the Apostle Peter would write before, according to tradition, he was crucified upside-down. "But there were false Prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord Who bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction"  (2 Peter 2:1). For these Church leaders, who are blind watchmen, to bring Islam and the reading of the Quran into the Church is to deny the Lord himself, it is to deny who He is, and it is to deny what He accomplished at Calvary's Cross 2,000 years ago, when He gave His life for the sins of the world! Just as bad, it is an open acceptance of the Spirit of Antichrist, which John said will bring swift destruction and ultimately, yet sadly, the damning of the soul.

What should the Church do now? We must get back to proclaiming that Jesus Christ is the only way of salvation without fear of reprisal. We must defend and preach the deity of Jesus, that He is the one true God and there is no other. Then we must also boldly proclaim the Holy Scriptures, not the Quran, as the inspired and inerrant Word of God.

Everyone should be free to practice their religion in the way they choose. What this is about is defending the truth of who Jesus Christ is and what He accomplished at the Cross, and preserving the purity of the Church against the infiltration of false doctrine. The Early Church Fathers (e.g., St. Polycarp, St. Irenaeus) defended the Truth against heresy, so why don't we?

(An Ordained Minister, David has been preaching and teaching God's Word for 18 years, focusing his ministry on the Cross, Holy Spirit, and the Second Coming of Christ. David resides in Kentucky.)

Re "The Early Church Fathers (e.g., St. Polycarp, St. Irenaeus) defended the Truth against heresy, so why don't we?" :

Well, who knows who he means by "we", but I'd say it's because "our" heads are full of so much Jew-Masonic garbage that "we" can't see or say that Islam is, and Muslims are, Anti-Christ.

Akira

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Re: 'Chrislam'
« Reply #1 on: August 01, 2011, 11:21:04 PM »
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Faith Shared

Faith Shared asks houses of worship across the country to organize events involving clergy reading from each other's sacred texts. An example would be a Christian Minister, Jewish Rabbi and Muslim Imam participating in a worship service or other event. Suggested readings will be provided from the Torah, the Gospels, and the Qur'an, but communities are encouraged to choose readings that will resonate with their congregations. Involvement of members from the Muslim community is key. We will also provide suggestions on how to incorporate this program into your regular worship services. And we will assist local congregations in their media and communications efforts.

http://www.faithshared.org/index.html

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The Prodigal Son

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Re: 'Chrislam'
« Reply #2 on: August 01, 2011, 11:22:16 PM »
Oh come on man! Give me a break already.

I'm no fan of Islam either... but at least they don't sneakily infiltrate governments, churches and academia, trying to blend in and hide who they really are - intent on subversion from within.

And just because I'm no fan of Islam doesn't mean I think that we should be KILLING THEM the way our governments are. Nor do I believe they deserve to be framed up for terror attacks like they were on 9/11. Looking at your site - you seem to have read much more Qu'aran than I have.

I am more concerned about the Jews because they are already inside the gates, and fiddling with the mechanisms of our Western nations to their own benefit and to our detriment.
"The Logos came down out of love for us. Let us not keep Him down permanently, but let us go up with Him to the Father, leaving the earth and earthly things behind, lest He say to us what He said to the Jews because of their stubbornness: 'I go where you cannot come" (Jn. 8:21)."

- St. Maximos the Confessor

Akira

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Re: 'Chrislam'
« Reply #3 on: August 01, 2011, 11:24:31 PM »
I never said anyone should be killing anyone.

I hope you can walk and chew gum at the same time.

It's nothing to do with being "more concerned about A than B."

Islam is rotten, and it's making many parts of Europe rotten, and it is a threat to what little remains of Christendom, and it's a very immediate threat to many Europeans, including the threat of theologically-based rape for one thing.

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"They don't sneakily infiltrate governments, churches and academia, trying to blend in and hide who they really are - intent on subversion from within."

Yes they do, they're not as "subtle" as Jews, but they're a lot more violent in a direct way. Since Islam is based on Jewism, they are no slouchers when it comes to invasion, infiltration and deception -- including lying about what they are and what they believe. It's called taqiyya.

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"I am more concerned about the Jews because they are already inside the gates, and fiddling with the mechanisms of our Western nations to their own benefit and to our detriment."

What do you think tens of millions of Muslims in Europe are doing? And if Turkey joins the EU (as most of the Euro-elites want to see happen), it will be well over a 100,000,000 Muslims in the EU right away.

Akira

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Re: 'Chrislam'
« Reply #4 on: August 01, 2011, 11:30:11 PM »
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"They don't sneakily infiltrate governments, churches and academia, trying to blend in and hide who they really are - intent on subversion from within."

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What are these photos of then? :

http://brianakira.wordpress.com/2011/07/26/faith-shared-at-satanic-shrines/
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"I am more concerned about the Jews because they are already inside the gates, and fiddling with the mechanisms of our Western nations to their own benefit and to our detriment."

You have no idea what you're talking about.

What do you think centuries of occupation of Christian lands has been? What do you think Dhimmi status meant and means for Christians in conquered Byzantium, in Iberia, in Turkey, Bulgaria, etc?

What do you call multiple invasions?

What do you call organized rapes and Muslim gangs and drug-runners, etc in France, Britain, Scandinavia, etc?

What do you call the Islamization of Church schools, of university faculties, of town councils and of governments across Europe?

What do you call this:

Can't Think For Yourself?


Want to impress your easily impressionable friends?

Sartre and Derrida aren't doing it for you any more?

Chomsky passé? Gore embarrassingly common?

Looking for some unreadable books to lay strategically on your coffee table or conspicuously pretend to read at Starbucks or the organic coffee-bean cooperative?

Prospect, a British "centre-left"  magazine has come up with a list of the Top 100 Public Intellectuals

1. Fethullah Gülen: The main "intellectual"  and "spiritual"  inspiration for Turkey's Islamic reconquista movement. He wants to Islamize the government. He uses science for 'religious purposes'. He's at the center of a gigantic organization, whose goal it is to transform Muslim societies, with Turkey as the center and leader of the reformed Caliphate. Has written that atheists and terrorists are equally despicable. Told supporters who work for the government, that they should persevere in order to establish an Islamic state. Advocates Sharia rule . On 18 June 1999, a Turkish network aired a video of Gülen in which he told his supporters to wait for the right moment "to take over Turkey."  He wants to Islamize Turkish nationalism. Gülen argues that "Turkish"  really means "Islamic" , and that only a Muslim Turk is a Turk: "the identity of Turks is Islam, a Turk who does not accept Islam is not a real Turk."

2. Muhammad Yunus: Bangladeshi Muslim banker who advocates sex discrimination in the awarding of loans. Formed "Global Elders" , a group of "world leaders"  (Jimmy Carter, Nelson Mandela, Graça Machel, Desmond Tutu, Kofi Annan, Ela Bhatt, Gro Harlem Brundtland, Li Zhaoxing, Mary Robinson; funded by Richard Branson, Peter Gabriel, other luminaries, and The UN (i.e. Western Tax-Payers)) who will contribute their wisdom and integrity to saving the world.

3. Yusuf Al-Qaradawi: Egyptian Muslim. One of the leaders of the Muslim Brotherhood. Co-founder of Islam Online, a site full of ahistorical nonsense like, "the Jews suffered a heavy defeat at the hands of the Byzantines in AD 70."  Host of the Al Jazeera TV show, Ash-Shariah wal-Hayat ("Shariah and Life"). Author of Islam: The Future Civilization.

4. Orhan Pamuk: Turkish Muslim. Rich socialist anti-American. Novelist and essayist.

5. Aitzaz Ahsan: Pakistani Muslim politician and lawyer. Rich socialist. As Pakistani Federal Minister for Law, appointed 20 of his party workers as judges, even though they had never appeared in court.

6. Amr Khaled: Egyptian Muslim. Tele-Islamist. Muslim Brotherhood. Author of The Honor and Might of Muslims.

7. Abdolkarim Soroush: Iranian Muslim. Supporter of the Iranian Islamic Revolution. Former Islamic Republic bureaucrat. Author of The Theoretical Contraction and Expansion of Sharia.

8. Tariq Ramadan: Egyptian-Swiss Muslim. His father was deported from Egypt for terror activities. His grandfather founded the Muslim Brotherhood. Fired from Swiss school for advocating Sharia and lapidation [stoning criminals to death]. Denied entry to the U.S. for financial support of Hamas. Believes that Muslims in Europe have to establish a new "European Islam" , which would include a "moratorium"  in Europe on Muslim habits such as stoning adulterers to death. Author of In the Footsteps of the Prophet: Lessons from the Life of Muhammad.

9. Mahmood Mamdani: Ugandan Muslim. Advocate for the Sudanese Janjaweed. Author of Good Muslim Bad Muslim: America, The Cold War, and the Roots of Terror.

10. Shirin Ebadi: Iranian Muslim. Supporter of the Iranian Islamic Revolution. Former Islamic Republic bureaucrat. Lawyer.

11. Noam Chomsky

12. Al Gore

13. Bernard Lewis

14. Umberto Eco

15. Ayaan Hirsi Ali

16. Amartya Sen

17. Fareed Zakaria

18. Garry Kasparov

19. Richard Dawkins

20. Mario Vargas Llosa

21. Lee Smolin

22. Jürgen Habermas

23. Salman Rushdie

24. Sari Nusseibeh

25. Slavoj Zizek

26. Vaclav Havel

27. Christopher Hitchens

28. Samuel Huntington

29. Peter Singer

30. Paul Krugman

31. Jared Diamond

32. Pope Benedict XVI

33. Fan Gang

34. Michael Ignatieff

35. Fernando Henrique Cardoso

36. Lilia Shevtsova

37. Charles Taylor

38. Martin Wolf

39. EO Wilson

40. Thomas Friedman

41. Bjørn Lomborg

42. Daniel Dennett

43. Francis Fukuyama

44. Ramachandra Guha

45. Tony Judt

46. Steven Levitt

47. Nouriel Roubini

48. Jeffrey Sachs

49. Wang Hui

50. VS Ramachandran

51. Drew Gilpin Faust

52. Lawrence Lessig

53. JM Coetzee

54. Fernando Savater

55. Wole Soyinka

56. Yan Xuetong

57. Steven Pinker

58. Alma Guillermoprieto

59. Sunita Narain

60. Anies Baswedan

61. Michael Walzer

62. Niall Ferguson

63. George Ayittey

64. Ashis Nandy

65. David Petraeus

66. Olivier Roy

67. Lawrence Summers

68. Martha Nussbaum

69. Robert Kagan

70. James Lovelock

71. J Craig Venter

72. Amos Oz

73. Samantha Power

74. Lee Kuan Yew

75. Hu Shuli

76. Kwame Anthony Appiah

77. Malcolm Gladwell

78. Alexander De Waal

79. Gianni Riotta

80. Daniel Barenboim

81. Thérèse Delpech

82. William Easterly

83. Minxin Pei

84. Richard Posner

85. Ivan Krastev

86. Enrique Krauze

87. Anne Applebaum

88. Rem Koolhaas

89. Jacques Attali

90. Paul Collier

91. Esther Duflo

92. Michael Spence

93. Robert Putnam

94. Harold Varmus

95. Howard Gardner

96. Daniel Kahneman

97. Yegor Gaidar

98. Neil Gershenfeld

99. Alain Finkielkraut

100. Ian Buruma

http://brianakira.wordpress.com/2008/08/06/cant-think-for-yourself/

You obviously haven't a clue what you're talking about.

Mike

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Re: 'Chrislam'
« Reply #5 on: August 01, 2011, 11:31:42 PM »
Islam is an ancient foe of Christendom to be sure. I hold both Judaism AND Islam in contempt. One tries to conquer us one way, and the other more insidiously ( Jewry).

Both are by Scriptural definition anti-Christ ( 1 John 2:22,23).
"But today the Jews, who are more dangerous than any wolves, are bent on surrounding my sheep; so I must spar with them and fight with them so that no sheep of mine may fall victim to those wolves. " -- St. John Chrysostom, Adversus Judaeos, Homily IV

The Prodigal Son

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Re: 'Chrislam'
« Reply #6 on: August 01, 2011, 11:33:24 PM »
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You obviously haven't a clue what you're talking about.

Clearly. Luckily I've got you to enlighten me.

Look - who controls OUR government? Muslims? Who runs the banks that loan OUR governments money at interest? Muslims right?

Who did 9/11 Akira? Muslims?

If you can't see that A.B.B. was OBVIOUSLY a willing instrument and proponent of JEWRY (not Islam) then I guess we're done here.

The whole point of all of this (for my part anyway) has been to show that this attack was a direct consequence of the anti-Israeli, anti-Zionist activities and rhetoric of Norwegians and of Norway.

A.B.B. might as well be a Jew himself (isn't that what Masons are - honorary paid Jew agents?) looking at what he did. He did it in defense of the 'Jewish state' and of Jew state ideals... just as the Jews and Zionists felt Norway was their enemy... so too did A.B.B. Why?

Because he's on the Jew's team; he's a Mason (and therefore ultimately controlled by Jewry), and a Jew-lover. He's vehemently anti-Islam because the 'Jewish state' is anti-Islam. If the Jews were pro-Islam - he would be too. He's a willing Shabbos Goy and servant of the JEWISH (not Muslim) NWO.
"The Logos came down out of love for us. Let us not keep Him down permanently, but let us go up with Him to the Father, leaving the earth and earthly things behind, lest He say to us what He said to the Jews because of their stubbornness: 'I go where you cannot come" (Jn. 8:21)."

- St. Maximos the Confessor